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just talk - Vincent - 08-28-2017

I`m going to have so much trouble here.. on this site..I don`t know the do`s and don`t of writing gospel songs
I`ve tried one or two songs, I`ll just have to take some "hits, and hints and keep at it....Vincent


RE: just talk - Beagle - 08-28-2017

Hi Vincent, there are a lot of "do's and don'ts" of song writing, but there are always exceptions! we just had a discussion recently about the "don'ts" and how there are still hit songs that "break the rules" so you can't always "follow the rules"!


RE: just talk - Vincent - 08-29-2017

thats so true, I have friends that bend the rules just to see if it works....lol its not like I have never written a song
gospel song..I`ll re-post a song I have B and song lyric see what you think. I don`t write much out of my heart, or my life, but others around me. But I think I can write about Jesus to get a start. I do have a song I`ll post.  thank you for the reply  Vincent


RE: just talk - michaelhanson - 09-04-2017

...bending the rules....that's were the fun's at!

If everyone follows the same rules and does everything alike; then everything sounds the same.


RE: just talk - damp hamster - 09-05-2017

Bending/breaking the rules skillfully: good. Doing it poorly, on the other hand...


RE: just talk - michaelhanson - 09-05-2017

Agreed, Damp, rule breaking needs to be done well, to be successful.  However, some of the great rule breaks of all time were done unintentionally; sometimes though experimentation, other times just by gut feel, for what seemed to sound good.  I believe that most of the Classical Composers new what they were breaking, when they broke rules.  

I doubt that Chuck Berry did, when he wrote Johnny B Goode and broke the rules.  I am going to guess that The Beatles didn't really understand theory enough to know they were breaking rules with many of their songs.  John and Paul however, had incredible instincts for what sounded good, musically.  A song like All You Need Is Love, changes time signature all through out the song; going from 4/4 to 3/4, back an forth.  Not only did they break music theory rules, but they broke all of the rules in recording studios as well; resulting in many of the practices we use today in studios....now considered to be standard ways of doing things.

For anyone who really gets into dissecting The Beatles, this site is pretty incredible.  http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-alphabet.shtml   

David Bowie was also known to break music theory rules.  

So, my belief as an artist, is that one needs to not be afraid to try things, which may break the rules.  However, you also need to be able to recognize, when something works and when it doesn't.


RE: just talk - Beagle - 09-06-2017

(09-05-2017, 01:06 PM)michaelhanson Wrote: Agreed, Damp, rule breaking needs to be done well, to be successful.  However, some of the great rule breaks of all time were done unintentionally; sometimes though experimentation, other times just by gut feel, for what seemed to sound good.  I believe that most of the Classical Composers new what they were breaking, when they broke rules.  

I doubt that Chuck Berry did, when he wrote Johnny B Goode and broke the rules.  I am going to guess that The Beatles didn't really understand theory enough to know they were breaking rules with many of their songs.  John and Paul however, had incredible instincts for what sounded good, musically.  A song like All You Need Is Love, changes time signature all through out the song; going from 4/4 to 3/4, back an forth.  Not only did they break music theory rules, but they broke all of the rules in recording studios as well; resulting in many of the practices we use today in studios....now considered to be standard ways of doing things.

For anyone who really gets into dissecting The Beatles, this site is pretty incredible.  http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-alphabet.shtml   

David Bowie was also known to break music theory rules.  

So, my belief as an artist, is that one needs to not be afraid to try things, which may break the rules.  However, you also need to be able to recognize, when something works and when it doesn't.

BINGO!